Health Minister Mark Butler and Senator Jane Hume discussing Australia’s migration policies during a Sunrise TV interview on 21 November 2025

Sunrise Interview with Minister Mark Butler

A recent Sunrise interview featured Health Minister Mark Butler and Liberal Senator Jane Hume, discussing a new report from the Australian Population Research Institute. The report suggests shifting Australia’s migration debate toward temporary visa holders, noting that 1.2 million people on student and tourist visas have remained in the country since the pandemic.

Government Response

Health Minister Mark Butler said net migration has already been reduced by around 40% since the post-COVID spike. He emphasised the need for a balanced approach, especially because international students play a crucial role in sectors like aged care, disability services, and even construction—industries still experiencing significant worker shortages.

Butler acknowledged pressures on housing and infrastructure, but highlighted Australia’s strong economy, low unemployment, and continued demand for skilled workers.

Opposition’s Position

Senator Jane Hume criticised Labor for what she called a “poorly managed” migration program, pointing out that Australia saw one million new migrants over two years—70% higher than any previous period. Hume argued that visa overstays, particularly among international students, have overloaded the visa appeals system.

She said the Coalition is preparing a new migration policy focused on securing essential skills, stating that future settings should aim for “more construction workers and engineers, fewer yoga teachers and goat farmers.”

Hume did not reveal specific migration intake numbers, noting that Opposition Leader Sussan Ley will outline key principles in the coming weeks.

Visa Overstay Management

When asked whether overstayers are being effectively tracked, Butler said the government is working to ensure temporary migrants comply with visa conditions and depart on time. He acknowledged the need for continued improvements but noted that large visa volumes make oversight challenging.

NSW Liberal Leadership & Party Image

The conversation also touched on comments by outgoing NSW Liberal leader Mark Speakman, who suggested the federal party’s brand damage contributed to election losses. Hume praised Speakman’s service but did not directly address the brand criticism.

Light Moment on Sunrise

The interview concluded with a light-hearted exchange about NSW politics, with Butler joking about TV presenter Kellie Sloane entering state politics and asking host Natalie Barr whether she plans to go “state or federal” after her time on Sunrise.